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Titlul: IFS 7002
Scris de: crazya din Marţi, 17 Aprilie 2012, 08:56:43
Salut ! Pe un din bucle am avut un senzor care s-a ars. L-am schimbat, dar centrala nu vrea sa il recunoasca si il vede tot defect ca si pe cel vechi. Ceva idei? Multumesc anticipat!


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: michaisoft din Marţi, 17 Aprilie 2012, 11:40:28
Probabil că reset, sau să opriţi/reporniţi centrala..aţi încercat...
Dar să-l băgaţi în alarmă? Sau bypass unbypass....


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: crazya din Marţi, 17 Aprilie 2012, 11:56:34
Am dat restart...nu are efect. Il vede cu adresa celui vechi si cu defect, iar daca il sterg nu mai merge bucla deloc si nu pot sa il adresez pe cel nou.


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: ocostel din Marţi, 17 Aprilie 2012, 12:38:20
Extras din manualul de instalare :

6.4. Addressing, initialization, re-initialization

6.4.1. Addressing
The method used for assigning addresses to addressable units in a fire alarm loop is called
Addressing. The addressing can be automated or manual and shall be performed separately for each fire alarm loop (see section 13.4.1).
In automated addressing the fire alarm loops’ units obtain addresses according to a strictly
specified algorithm and the fire control panel is capable to detect their location later. To be able to operate in automated addressing mode, a fire detector shall meet the following requirements:
− No short circuit or break up detected;
− Not more than one branch at a single point, i.e. between two consecutive units;
− No branches between the fire control panel and the first (the last) unit;
− No branching of branches.
In manual addressing the fire alarm loops’ units obtain addresses as they are determined by the user. If, while performing manual addressing, the algorithm of the automated addressing is not followed, the fire control panel will not be capable to detect the units’ location later. The only restriction in manual addressing is explained in section 6.4.2.3.

6.4.3. Re-initialization
Re-initialization is an address recovery process for an addressable unit that has been removed
from the loop and has been installed again. The re-initialization is performed in various ways,
depending on the addressing type.

6.4.3.1. Re-initialization in automated addressing mode
When replacing a removed addressable unit in a fire alarm loop, the fire control panel performs
compliance check on unit’s location and parameters (identification number, type and class) with these
saved in the energy independent memory. A text message, Re-initialization is seen at the display’s
bottom part.
Depending on the result of the compliance check, the control panel performs the following
actions:
a) Where the control panel is capable to detect synonymously the location of the unit in the loop,
and compliance of its parameters with these registered in the energy independent memory is
detected, then:
♦ The unit is started with its old address in the loop;
♦ The fault Removed device is cleared;
b) Where the control panel is capable to detect synonymously the location of the unit in the loop,
but incompliance of its parameters with these registered in the energy independent memory is
detected, then:
♦ The unit is started with an address, equal to its location in the loop;
♦ Fault condition for incompliance of identification number/type/class is activated;
♦ The unit is included in the Service zone (see section 6.5);
c) Where the control panel is not capable to detect synonymously the location of the unit in the
loop (two or more serial units, that form an area, have been removed, but only some of them
are installed again), then :
♦ The unit is started with the first unoccupied address in the corresponding area of the
loop;
♦ Fault condition Device not initialized is activated
♦ The unit is included in the Service zone.
When the last removed unit is replaced in the loop, the fire control panel will synonymously detect
their location. For the last included unit the control panel will perform action a) or b). For the
previously included units the control panel will perform the following actions:
d) Where the control panel detects compliance of unit parameters with these saved in the
energy independent memory:
♦ The unit is started with its old address in the loop;
♦ Fault conditions Removed device and Device not initialized are cleared;
♦ The unit is excluded from the Service zone;
e) Where the control panel detects incompliance of unit parameters with these saved in the
energy independent memory:
♦ The unit is started with an address, equal to its location in the loop;
♦ Fault condition for incompliance of identification number/type/class is activated;
♦ The unit remains in the Service zone.

6.4.3.2. Re-initialization in manual addressing mode
 When a removed addressable unit is replaced in the fire alarm loop, the fire control panel
performs compliance check on the identification number of the replaced unit with the number saved in the energy independent memory, and starts up the unit with its old address.


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: crazya din Vineri, 20 Aprilie 2012, 15:19:07
Merci...manualul l-am citit si eu. Am reusit sa primesc un raspuns de la fabricant si se pare ca este o eroare de soft. Trebuie resetata centrala si programata de la zero. Multumesc pentru ajutor !


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: ocostel din Vineri, 20 Aprilie 2012, 16:11:19
Conform manualului trebuia sa se reseteze singura.
Acum spera sa se rezolve si dupa resetare/reprogramare, daca nu ..... un firmware de la producator .

Bafta !


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: crazya din Vineri, 1 Iunie 2012, 09:42:17
Dupa o luna de functionare aceasi problema...plus ca 30% din senzori au contaminare intre 3% si 57 % in conditiile in care nu exista nici macar o urma de praf in locatie. Este cea mai proasta centrala posibila.


Titlul: Răspuns: IFS 7002
Scris de: cosmindaniel din Joi, 28 Ianuarie 2016, 23:09:26
Salut, am dat recent de o centrala IFS7002-1, si are pe bucla un sensor care tot da defecte aleatorii si apoi dispar, ca sa ma asigur am izolat iesirile(disable), si am izolat si am resetat centrala(software) pentru ca nu mai reseta sensorul defect, dupa reset, am constatat cu stupoare ca nu mai raspunde la comenzi, adica apas pe butoanele virtuale de pe display, confirma de comanda dar nu executa nimic, am resetato de cateva ori si hardware, dar revine de fiecare data cu aceleasi defecte......................Cineva vreo idee???
Multumesc